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Post by Bluemoon on May 31, 2012 1:31:15 GMT 1
Brendan Rodgers has agreed a deal to become the new Liverpool manager. The 39-year-old will sign a three-year contract at Anfield and his appointment is likely to be officially confirmed within 24 hours. More:
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Post by trautmansdropkick on May 31, 2012 7:44:04 GMT 1
I though that Rodgers was shit on by Reading and was pleased when he went to Swansea and dd so well. I can't help thinking, however, that he has bitten off far more than is good for him at Loserpool. Typically f clubs owned by Yanks (Rags, Villa and Loserpool) they have no long term targets or goals, demand instant success but don't even understand what organising an Association Football Club in England requires. Their methods might work where owners are well protected, like they are in the NBA, MLB, NHL or NFL but here in England we do NOT have salary caps, National Bargaining Agreements or Central Bodies who do all the work for the clubs with the media, corporates etc. The only major similarity between the three of them appears to be that they talk a good talk, spend as little as they can get away with and use OUR clubs as security for loans that prop up their various ventures in our Colonial areas. Rodgers will be swallowed up by them completely, even DogLeash, with his major scouser support, couldn't get anywhere (having said that, he didn't deserve to IMO - he got EVERYTHING he did wrong - relying on the fans to keep him afloat).
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Post by geemcfc on May 31, 2012 9:02:33 GMT 1
Living with the Swansea fans, I can tell you that they are not happy by this news. They have now been shit on by three managers in succession.
Roberto Martinez - Up and left to go to Wigan and what a great job he's done there... NOT! Paulo De Sousa - Up and left to go to Leicester... fired half way through the season he joined! Brendan Rogers - Who has now up and left to go to Liverpool, who are over-hyped for who they are.
Liverpool would need to invest a good £50million at least before being able to contend for Champions League football. That would only get them four players as well.
Brendan Rogers has not done the right thing by leaving the Swans and the Jack Army are hoping that whoever comes in will continue with their style of football, or they will get relegated!
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Post by Bluemoon on Jun 1, 2012 0:34:42 GMT 1
Liverpool and Swansea Agree Brendan Rodgers Compensation Liverpool have agreed a compensation deal with Premier League rivals Swansea for manager Brendan Rodgers. The 39-year-old is expected to sign a three-year contract to become Liverpool boss and his appointment is likely to be confirmed within 24 hours. Read More:
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Post by eaststand on Jun 2, 2012 22:15:02 GMT 1
I think it's a fantastic appointment from Liverpool, i genuinely think they couldn't have attracted a better manager and if we were to have sacked Mancini (should never be uttering those words!) I'd have wanted Rodgers as his replacement. He's everything that a modern day coach needs. He integrates himself nicely between the many sporting disciplines there are around a club today (Sports psychology, nutrition, sports science and the coaches & physio's themselves). Modern day football is changing a lot and he's embraced it all by not just sticking with what he knows, he's gotten himself out there and attempted to understand different cultures and training methods of football. It's like there is so many different concepts being fired at you; the sports scientists telling coaches they're doing this wrong, it would be better doing it this way because we have this data that proves it and the coaches constantly battle back saying ''no, this is the right way because 20 years experience tell us it's right''. The physio's battle the lot because all they want to do is keep players injury free and to do that they want training at ridiculously low levels and to embrace all that knowledge and be able to over see it and not just pass the book on (as a lot of the older managers have done, it's why head/lead sports scientist at a football club is the most insecure job in the world!)) at such an early age (for a manager anyways), is why he's gained himself such a reputation.
I mean he's been invited out to Spain's training camp for the Euros (having been to observe Barcelona's training in the past) to observe their coaching methods and training drills/protocols. He's jumping the gun on research and getting out there and using his football nouse to observe and take away the vital parts of their training and incorporating them into his own teams. The FA funds that are pumping millions into sports science and performance analysis to get answers as to why these nations produce so much more technically gifted players, he's going over there and getting the beat on other teams and managers who perhaps are not.
Not that i know him personally or anything but as I've probably made clear i have a lot of respect for him; he's taken the initiative himself to understand all these new techniques that are being thrown at him and he's molded them together into a very good Swansea team and i think as long as he doesn't compromise that at Liverpool and as, like TDK says, the American owners do not act like, well, American owners, then i think he'll be a success at Liverpool. Prem title, I'm not too sure but I've always quite liked the red scouse as a club, although people who were about in the 70's & 80's tell me i shouldn't, it would be nice to see them knock one of those toff london clubs out of the top 4.
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Post by eaststand on Jun 2, 2012 22:21:59 GMT 1
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Post by trautmansdropkick on Jun 3, 2012 9:19:09 GMT 1
Two points there Eaststand that I would like to comment on
1) Two years ago we put guys into Barcelona for a few weeks apparently and what they learned has been included into (and the major template for design and operation of) the new Etihad Campus development. Mr Rodgers isn't the only one who is involved in learning 'new tricks'. We have seen it, done it, learned from the experience and are constructing and developing it at the Etihad.
2) My major concern with Rodgers at Liverpool (poorly detailed in my previous post) is that from being at Clubs with a single, all-powerful Oligarch (Chelsea, Reading, Swansea) where he individually 'networked' well with the respective dictatorial owners, he is now thrown into an intensely political arena where the machinations are very similar to all big commercial organisations (including general industry, banking /finance, our own club, the rags and Arsenal) where the company rule book has a front page that is blank except for three letters.... C Y A and managers who are not experienced in these kind of political manouverings will find that they take up far too much of their attention. Just look at what happened to us under the regimes of Swales, Bowler and Lee or to Newcastle during the infamous Shepherd 'female dogs' debacle.
I have no major concerns as to his technical abilities but a lot of doubt as to his 'socio-commercial' experiences and that this post has come too early (after just 1 season with the 'big boys'). AVB found that out at Chelsea last season where he was somewhat naive in his narrow (technically excellent, football dominated) outlook and did not seem to realise that political opponents within the club were gunning for him didn't he?
Having said that, Time will tell.
Edit: I think the fact that The Rags and Arsenal have such incredibly street-wise (a Glaswegian and an ex- school teacher) and strong, stubborn managers is the reason these clubs have avoided the implosion that has happened elsewhere - it is interesting that both of the managers are reachingf their 'sell-by' date and what will happen in the next few years is unpredictable.
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